Leanne Meyers


The + Ilowing is the life history of Leanne Meyers, a native of erth, Australia. In 1990, she will celebrate her- twenty-sev nth birthday.

Since December of 19e9, Leai–,i-,a- has been living in South Harpswell, Maine, with her American husband, @:::ip. She is currently working in Freeport at J. Crew. Seven months pregnant with their first child, Leanne is in good health. She has short, stylish, light brown hair and is Of Medium height. Leanne is very attractive; she has a verv wholesome about her.

Her parents are native Australians and are currently living in Perth. In late July, they will make their first trip to the United States. She has two olden brothers, Steven and Mark, ages 31 and 29 respectively. Both reside

in Australia. ‘Leanne will return to Australia in -.’)anL(ary of

1991 to attend her brother Mark’s wedding.

In August, Leanne and her husband will move to North Carol ina, where @:.”,ip wil I pursue an MBA at Duke University. Leanne is looking forward to the move because she feels the climate in North Carolina will be more to Iier !-king.

Leanne’s life story is untitled at the present time.

She feels it is too early to have a title because she hasn’t done enough in her I i+e yet.

Part II . The ‘L-i.-fe S-Lcjrv

My youngest thought. That’s pretty- hard. My birth was fairly normal, compared to both my brothers. One was a blue baby and the other one was a short cord. So, yeah, I don’t know. I’ve thought about asking Mum about that anyway, for me [the details of her birth]. But, she’s coming over here soon, so I’ve got all these questions already. I keep writing them down. Like, at wort.-: we keep thinking of them. And then I keep writing them down. I’ve never asked … some things You ask like some things about Your birth, bL!’t not all the gruesome details. Yeah, but I sorta want to know them though. I’ll ask Mum when she comes over. r3ets too e.,.,pensive on the phone. Umm, I I ived in a Suburb I i@::e You have here. I lived in a suburb called YLtra@::yme. We lived there all Our lives. Mum and Dad bought it two ,e-Rrs before my brother, was born. Ummm … but the Youngest I can thirty.-: of was I i@::e kindergarten-same here – I was like 5. But tiameli-fe has always been like my two older brothers, myself in the -family, Mum and Dad. So, yeah two years each above over me. I’m twenty-seven this year, and ones 29 and one’s 31. Perth, so it’s a small citv. Ummm what’s the Population? No, probably 86(.),000. So, its quite bi throughout. That’s like over a huge area compared to here. Western Australia is, Ltinm, in size comparable to Tc-.<as. Its like more than Tep,,as twice as much. I’m not sure but, yeah. The only thing I’ve noticed here is the difference of the climate from when we were Younger, Cause we were always Outside doing things, never restricted :inside. Looking back whether that is good or bad sometimes I don’t know CaLtse like I’ve got all these males that MLim has. I’ve had si,,., off because of the Sun. They can be caricE?r–OLtS, so now I don’t go in the Sun. It’s Much better than being indoors all day. I’d much rather be Outdoors. So, and here you -Are [restricted inside] because of the snow. So, that Would be hard. I don’t know if I’d like that. It’s nice for a while..Esnowl but for si,,, months of thelyear, so we’ve just found Out, no it’s good, but it gets so cold up here. E@itterly cold, SC) You just don’t want to go outside. I don’t; I want to stay in. Cause I I ikL- it when it rmains, 4xt’s nice. It’s pretty. That’s why it would be good to go to North Carolina cause it’s fairly similar apparently, YOL( know, climate. Yeah, and its like, Cause when your Younger you go down to the beach Cin Australia]. And ‘like here not as much. YOLL have to drive so many hours or something to get to the beach. There its always like twenty minutes away, at the most. SO, You’d go there for the day, swimming and whatever all day. Plus there’s an island off Perth, Rottnest Island, Limm you can’t have any cars on the island. Any bicycles YDL( can take Your- own or You can hire their,. And it’s -Rl’i these little shacks and bungalows that you rent. SO, You go over there on Your holidays. We used to always go over there with the family, @-4heri You were really YOLtMg, Cause it’s easy. We’d start swimming all day. That’s about all we’d do, swim and fish.

When we were younger, we all started umm Little Athletics, start when you’re the age of 7, goes up to 14.

All three of us did it. UMM SO You have like a meet every Saturday. You 90 in all the events, Plus You train on two inights of the week ai-id Sunday. That tOO@.-. up a ‘lot Of time. Track and -field, all that. But, UfnM Your competing with the different centers, so its kids from all different sLtbLtrbs, and you compete against a another Suburb. But, that’s where I got to meet like a Couple my closest girlfriends, who I still see now. It was there when I was seven or so. Like there’s one, Allison, I met her there, and she was one of my bridesmaids. So, like we all met a. lot of people through if-. Now, like My ML(M, is secretary for the Little Athletics Association. So, she does that. She’s kept very busy.

Like we’d go, YOL( know ‘like on weekends when You Are doing things, LTMMM, cause my Dad used to ride motorbikes. [@e used to pick MLtin LIP when they were Younger and they used to ride motorbikes. My Dad comes from a family of +our brothers, and they are all, like my Dad is an electrician by trade. And so is another one of his brothers, and another -one they’re all sorta into woodwor@::, t is like a builder, doing Something with their hands. And like we’d go away like up to the bush what You Call the cot-tntrv, about an hour and a half away, and just go yeah riding on motorbikes. My Dad had a larger motorbike, and at one time, when we were about eight or something, my grandmother went on an overseas  trip — to -JApan – and she came back with two motorbikes, mini sarta motorbikes, you know the small ones@’ One -for our family and one +or my Ltncle’s -family. So we’d take that bike and we all learned on that one. But, then also we had friends we’d go with in another family, and like they’d ride the huge bikes and we’d go on the back of them while they were racing and stuff. But that was really good. That was really interesting. Sorta teach You not to be afraid to get on and see what happens. And like I’d take girlfriends with i,ne. It was sorta good to get away on t@ie weekends rather than just stay in Perth all the time.

But , umm Dad bought a bl ock of I and down in MandLtrah , which is an hour and 15 minl(te drive -from Our house. And its like on a estuary, so its like this [her present home is on the ocean] and Dad built the house down there, just a two story, and also at the time Mum was working, she was secretary to a construction company, so the man she was working for sorta helped as well. We’d go down there every weekend and stay in another house while we were building Our house. We’ve got all the photos building Lip and everything.

But, like it’s finished now and thats where they are going  to retire, Mum and Dad. It’s sortr 1 i@-.:e its better-, -than Our tIOLise in Per–th So, it’ll be nice to go there. But , LtM , the beach was close by so we’d go there. But like we’d go out an the estuary, Dad’s got a big boat. Its about 16 foot, power boat. Umm, we’d 90 Out crabbing, crabpats?, like you have lobster pots here, its quite similar. You’d onl y 1 ay them down -for I ike hal + an hour, so I i@.-.e You’d PL(I I these i-iets, and YOLi’d drop them down into the water, they’re on a float, and its like this round net, and YCLL’D go to bait them and You’d drop it down, and it lays fla4- on the ground in the estuary and the crabs crawl in, and as You pull it, it sorta Comes Lip into this round thing so the crabs can’t get Out . SO , You PLtl I i t Lip qLk i C@, I y and You hoist it into the boat. And everyone puts their feet up into the boat Cause the crabs go running around the boat if You don’t catch them quickly. It was great! They are blue manna? crabs. The shell – they have claws – the shell has to be like as big as a soda can from point to point, if not YOLK have to throw it back. That’s like the MinifriLtM size. Its good flin” You wait a half hour SO YOL( take voltr I unch out, you take drinks, so during the half hour you wait and You are either driving the boat or pltl I ing Lip the pots or something. Its good, yeah$ so we eat a lot of seafood and Stuff, which is good. It got to the stage where we’d go to MaridLtrah just about-. every weekend .

But then like we’d have other holidays, like school holidays, when we’d have the two weeks of+. We’d go away. Been Lip to @’albarri, which is Lip north in Western Australia. Umin, its where the gorges are? A small version of the Grand Canyon, that -..@orta thing. But its really hot, really drv heat. YOLk’d stay in a caravan park or something. Thats when we’d go as a -family and You’d sorta meet other people who were on holidays. I sarta remember meeting some girls, but Cause I was with brothers I was more with the boys instead. That Was usually more fltn. Where else have we been? We traveled down South, Margaret River, as well, with the family. Once, as soon as we got thi’L- block most of our holidays went to there. But We all Picked LIP on things we wanted to do. My brothers ride motorbikes as well now. So I’m not afraid to get Out and go fishing or anything. Its good, everyone enjoys going out in the boat. We ski, Rnd things like that. Its good instead of doing it once in a blue moon, we do it all the time.

We LisecJ to go to Zn:Ltnday School when we were Younger. We went for a few years and then it just stopped. I think we changed churches or fathers or something. I believe in God, the Church a+ England. Angelican I think. Over here I think Congregational is like a branch off Angelican. I believe in God and I believe in heaven. Its no great major role, but its like at your wedding, ancestry is English so we give a toast to the OLteen. t:.’.ip thought that was strange, but its accepted. We used to sing “God Save the OLteen” when we were YOLkMger at school, like the national anthem everyday. There has always been ties with England on both Mum and Dads side [family lineages. Dad’s parents were English. So, we can get dltal passports if we want them. No Scottish or American [in the -family3.

They are all dead Egraridparents]. Thats not nice is it. They are not alive. I remember Dad’s parents, I don’t know why but I remember, certain things about Elad’s parents. His Mum used to do a lot of handy work as well and stuff. I don’t remember a lot because they died when I Was quit young . So, I don’t remember very fYlLtCtl Of them. But she was like an extremely sweet, sweet person. Like she was always really nice when You go there, but I don’t remember Dad Much. He was really quiet. I don’t remember- I-liM Much at all, just like the sight of him. But, Mum’s parents, LKMM Grandma, she divorced her husband when she Was Much younger. Yeah, not done during her time. He was in the Royal Air Force and she met him through flying. She had two brothers. She came from the farm. I still remember my great-grandmother- as well, which is Weird. JLtst her house and going over to her house. I don’t know how old I was. Like it’d only be like 5 [years old]. She had this chair she used to sit in. Its weird. And so she used to [.-.id me about these humbugs, and I’d just go and sit with her.

But, I don’t remember conversations or anything. But, just a house, this room. The house had this huge veranda around it. And there is this photo Mum’s got at home of my gr,eat-grandmother, grandmother, mother and me, all on there and thats sarta really weird to at. I was 4, maybe three.

Grandma, she took flying lessons. She Was actually a stunt pilot in her day. She was a pretty exciting grandma. z@o, that’s how she met her husband. But then they got divorced and I i@-..e that isn’t sorta tal @.-.ed LibOL(t much . Mum really never talked about it. And then grandma died last year. She, it was like some form of cancer, and then something went wrong with her insides. And she got really sick. Mum was fairly close to her. Like we sorta all went to visit her, but she sort of kept a distance. But then we found – I still keep it – we found this letter that grandma wrote. And it Was just I i@.-:e on this notebook , it was real I y weird. It’s to herself. You know how You Say Your wedding VOWS, You start to my … and it explains how she felt in her divor,ce with her, husband. Its I i@::e my Mum didrit even know this. In the end – cause this is just after my grandfather died and they had been divorced years and she never remarried – she sorta wrote to herself. It says “wait -for me at the gates”, like the gates of heaven. Like for her to feel that way about someone she divorced, that’5 really hard to understand. Let’s see grandma and her husband they ended up coming to Perth, and they bought a hotel. So, Mum grew up living in a hotel with the bar downstairs and everything, and then living upstairs. Grandmother said grandfather used to drink a lot. Sri, like owning a hotel was the worst thing in the world to do. But she didn’t realize that. It was really interesting. Mum rang up at work the day she found the letter Cause she was going through grandma’s stuff. She said “You’re not gonna believe this'” She read it Out and said she couldn’t believe it. I said to her if you are gonna keep something like that, tell me, rrther than leave me something after You are dead, cause its no good. You’d rather they say it to you. Now it sorta makes You think all these years she’s been thinking these things and not telling anyone . That VJC-ILI] d be hard So, we still don’t understand why she didn’t tell anyone. Its real]]-y- well wr,itten letter, but I can’t read it cause it makes me sad.

Dad is an electrician. He can fi,, anything or do anything, like with his hands which is great. I notice that [-low, when you’re not ther,e. Like my car used to be serviced by him. He’s doing it now, he’s still working at the SEC, the State Eiectr,icity Commission. He’s sorta quiet in a way, reserved. Ummm, I call him distinguished looking.

He’s six foot tall and he’s got grey hair, and he’s slim. I:Iad’s quiet, whereas Mum Will talk about anything and everything. But, it sorta hit a stage, I think it was when T Was 14@:-e 16, and its ‘like You never get on and VOLT are .L I L . always arguing with Your, Mum. But never huge fig@ts. And then all Of a SL@dden – click. And I can talk about anything with her. T don’t know what she did or what I did, but it just turned around. So, that’s good. Ufni-n, they [parents] are always busy, like they are never too busy for any Of us. See we all went to the same school. I went to the school that my grandaiather and my mother went to, Perth College. My godmother went to Perth College, quite a few did, its a private school. Yeah, it was sort of a tradition. Like we had to wear uniforms. We had a Summer dress and a hat in Summer, and in winter you have to wear a ‘@-4Le, gloves and a beret. It really quite strict. You Couldn’t do anything except for like smoke in the toilets, like we did. We got caught and then your parents would get rung. I think everyone did something like that. They were enjoyable years, but now that I sorta think about them looking back they aren’t as bad as you think. I didn’t want to go there at all. I wanted to go to another school where all my friends were going. I had to argue and argue, but Mum just said “No, YOL( are going there”. Like I didn’t know anyone there. But, I made new friends. If I didn’t go there I think I Would’ve been worse. I Would’ve got bad or something. I think the thing that shaped my life the most was going to a private high school. If I didn’t have that I think I Would’ve tended to do What I liked when I wanted to. I was a bit too rough around the edges before I went there.

Like defying whatever Mum Would want me to do; I’d think about doing the opposite. In a state school, like there was a girl that 1 was @triends with and she was really rough. And You sorta look at, I’m not Sure what they are doing now, but I wouldn’t Want to go to a state high school now, beCaLtSe they are so rough. I’m not sure 4@ You learn as i-nL(ch, YCL( are distracted by all the boys or something.

State schools are coed, but private schools are either for men or, women. You pay per term and there are three terms per year. Whereas state schools YOL( just pay for books and something else. And like here you have to pay some astronomical amount of money for medical services. In Australia, You have Medicare, which is like state money, You pay $22 to see a doctor and Medicare will give you back like 10 or 12 of that. And if You’ve got private coverage, You get more back. But, yeah private schools, all my girlfriends now that I know and I’m close to, they all Went to private schools. They are all different though. So,  thats the difference, you sorta mix in with different people. I was really close to one girlfriend, Allison, for all to those years [teen years’l. Mum got Close to their -family and Mum and Dad. Her parents actually got divorced. Out of a group Of LtS, there was myself and another girl with Our parents still together [while at Perth College].

Father Curt i s taught -you rel i q i an .I don’t know why, he sorta stood Out. He was very easy to talk to. There were some other teachers, like an English teacher, which was very good, Mrs. Crompton, I don’t know why T remember her name’ Some stood Out, they were sorta more human. They’d like have a conversation with You. Sometimes you’d get other teachers who Wouldn’t, not it Like the art teacher we had there she was qt.tite wacky. But s@iL-‘d I et you do what You wanted. I don’t know. Its the same as here I think. If VOL( don’t like a teacher, you don’l@- like the Course. And you won’t learn anything in the course. But there was never any that like I hated.

You’d get into trouble, but You’d soon get out of it qL(ic@.-: enough .Like smoking, WE used to sitol::e down in these dungeons. We used to get dressed downstairs, like if You play sports. We always did sports at school, and you’d have to get changed. We got caught twice smoking down there.

There was a deputy headmaster of the school, and a deputy headmistress and we thought she’d You when she sees you . You’d have to go sit in the office -Lill they call Your parents, and You are sitting’there, speaking. YOU just go home and Your parents sorta YOU think they are gonna like hit or YOU don’t know what they are gonna do. I never did anything bad. Like I don’t remember Mum and Dad, like they never ever yelled. They talked to You and Mum believes you shouldn’t yell. Its strange for some reason. I’ve never heard them argue ever in my life. So, which I think is great. There’s not many people that can probably say that. So, now I’m sorta teaching K4p not to yell.

Cause I -find he’s like, I don’t know, he is trying to voice his opinion but like You don’t have to yell it. I think that comes from his family, because his MUM and Dad do that.

They call it debating, but it’s not really debating. Like discussion its called. I still don’t understand that.

They always sorta kept things quiet if YOU did something wrong at school or something, between myself and my brothers sometimes. There’s no big family discussion or anything. If You did something wrong they’d sorta tell you off and there’s no need to tell Your brother about it or whatever. I-aLtse I’m sure my older brother did worse things.

But, I never heard about them. Some things I have heard, bLtt..[They probably did it] because all it does at that age is give You an idea., like oh I haven’t done that or maybe I’ll try that.

LJP until the age of 16 or 17, probably [she experienced some conflict]. See like at IS YOU can go into hotels. We couldn’t get our, license till we were 17. But that’s like when VULt’re Younger YOL(‘D like hitchhike everywhere before “OLt were seventeen. We used to go to the beach on our weekends and You’d ‘like hitchhike from house to house. L i @.. e ther,e’d be three girls and we all lived at different places so we’d get in cars at different times. And now, I wouldn’t even think of doing it. And Mum always sorta said “Elon’t ever do it.” But like in those days it wasn’t sorta that bad. Like whatever happened, happened. But, like that cl.-‘Ld;-i’t really sink in till years after. Some weird things did happen when You’d get in some cars, like one girl had all the doors locked on her. But it didn’t sink in though. Not@iing happened .-4hic:h Was lucky. Once YOU sorta get Your driver’s license You get a bit more independent and you get away.

So, LTMM, you are sorta going through your own problem [as a teenager] really of like dating someone, seeing someone. And You are more involved in YOLkrsel-f probably what everyone else is doing. You are always trying to scheaie something. Like I wasn’t allowed to go down to my boyfriends holiday I-IOME unless someone else was going. And his parents used to think the same, SO it’d just be like You two and another two people going or something. I was like 17 or IS. But You always felt guilty sorta about doing it. I-Ls i–@ot as if you are doing anything bad, but SO …

Premarital sex is okay in Australia. Everyone knows what goes on. I first had se,.. when I was 17. 1 remember my Mum didn’t want to talk: -about it at first. I read books. But, I still didn’t understand. So, I kept trying to find Out . I feel it should be talked about more -freely.

I went away with MLM once. We went to Singapore for a week:. My brother worked for the airlines, so we got all these cheap tr-tifis. That sarta stands Out [,as important event in teen years], because it was the first time I spent -time alone with Mum. It was just the two Of us going cut+or dinner and stuff and that was great. And then like my brother Mark, when I was in my teens, he went over to New Zealand. He worked in a ski resort over there. And so I flew off to New Zealand -for, a week. Another cheap air -fare to London, so I went to London for two weeks. Things like that sorta stood Cut. The family then was sorta separated. Because we’d all traveled to somewhere different. My older brother was driving around Australia.

My parents taught us to speak: politely, table manners, not to shOLtt when we felt differently about something than someone else. They were fairly strict compared to some people I’ve seen eating here’ And respect for them. You don’t ever swear, around the house. Its funny, cause we are all Older it doesn’t matter Much. But like then it really did matter, beCaLkSC- You were just swearing -for the @un o@ it or something. I can remember my brothers swearing. If You wanted them to pic@.. YOU up if someone was drinking or something, sometimes YC)L(‘d rninq_ them [parents] up and others

YOU WOLT I dr) ‘ t .

Going out to parties and stuff. Like you’d always have to have one of the parents driving you. Like one of the parents Would dr,ive you and pic@.-. you up at a certain time. And half the time You’d go to a party and then you’d go to another one in between and get back in time for them to pick: YOU up. We used to do that all the time. And they never knew You’d do that. Sometimes I think: they knew we had been [drinking]. But we never really drank a lot then.

Sometimes maybe, like there’d be a time when You’d tr,y it and You do drink-.: too much and You get completely ill. But I think: they were tolerant because it wasn’t as if we were doing it every night. You sorta get told off for smoking.

And like I’d never smoke at home or anything. But I just gave Lip this year. But, I smoked from when I was like 15 till then. So I had to stop, but they were always against that. Always against smoking. But it didn’t sink in. it was something I wanted to do. We drink more, yeah [in At.tstralial. Like that Would be fine, YOU Could do that every c@’atLtr,day nigh-‘,- and that’s not considered bad at all. Friday and Saturday is okay. That@s still alright now. They do dr,in@—. a lot more than here. I’ve noticed that. We didn’t reallv have any problems with dr’LkgS or anything.

Like there was always marijuana around and we all tried it. And then at one stage, we found someone’s MLTM’S Valium pills. So, we took heaps of those; we so you were all sorta weavy and Stuff. But like we did that -@wice, so its not something you kept a habit: up on. And so I think when I was 22, and that was when like I’d moved to Melbourne, and that was the first thing I’d seen more of drugs. Like a person there was.. like doing something with cocaine. Thats only really just come about now. Most people did try it; I know my brother used to smoke it quite q bit. And now he has stopped, cause he used to be at me al I the time about smoking. “Stop smoking, stop smoking”… but his smoking marijuana was alright. But I had to stop smoking. Its not as if you keep it from MLim and Dad. I remember Mark came home one day and planted some seeds in the backyard, and didn’t tell MLIM. Mums watering all these little things, and they look like tomato bushes. And so she didn’t say anything. And then I think she went Out one day – and Mark thought it was the most hilarious thing he’d ever heard because Mums looking after these plants – and someone noticed that they weren’t tomato plants -tnd told her. I don’t [:-now if she COL(ldn’t stop laughing or i@ she Was just that mad because he knew that she didn’t know. So, she left him a note and told him she wanted the foreign objects moved from the backyards So like he pulled them Lip. But that was just like hilarious; I Couldn’t stop laughing. They were sorta pretty open about it, like you can have drinks at home and whatever. I think I’d like to duplicate for my own children [my childhood). I don’t think I’d be strict or anything. I know some times like when I CjOt Caught wagging school. I came home with the girl I wagged school with and her mother was standing Outside My ML(M’s house. SO , they knew @-4e’d done it. She was holding one of these sticks from the umbrella tree Out front. And like when we came down the street it looked like she was gonna come towards me and I thin@:- she was so mad she was gonna hit me as Well. My Mum just dragged me Out Of the way. I remember MLtm sorta saying something to her- mother, but I don’t […-now what was because MLtm pushed me inside as if to say don’t touch my kid.

They were mean [brothers]. [laugh] No, they’re quite –icod, like some parts we were all learning how to surf, @’.-.ALtse Dad Lt–;ed to surf when he was Younger-, and they Lt-H@ed to have the big long plan@..s, boards, so we used to take that down to the beach and tfiev’d learn to Surf an that. One surfs all the time now. i used to Surf on mats and things. EiLtt, my eldest brother, David, he’s sor-ta like more qLt4et thats all, and into himself. But Mar@::, the middle one, is little rat bag of the family. Like he’d be the one like if you did something wrong and Mum Would come in and she’d who did it, Mark Would sorta at me and like he”d always look innocent. He’d always get away with it. -Rut, he was always good -flin so.. I thin@.- there Was one time, Our house was right next to a park, the SLtbLtrbE-@ were blocl::s, but in tV-40 1-)Ltge blocks there Would be a huge park next to it. SO We Would go next door and play games after school and stuff . 1:4LIt ‘L I’m trying to remember, what happened, I was ar,guing in the park ne,.-,–t door with another girl and she turned around and hit me, whacked me one right in the -Face. Mark was there and Mark turned around and hit her! And flattened her’ So, he Sticks up for me, if I need him. I think you’d go through a stage where +or a few years they [brothers] sorta don’t hate You, but they are always a problem to YOU. And then You go through a few years where they are quiet, and You are off doing your own thing anyway, and sorta now your at the stage where you want them around. And they are always there when you need them so… and its good. I think I got closer to them Rs I got older. And now that we are apart You tend to say things that You don’t Say when you are together.

They both went to private School as well. They went to Hale. Like they just went to high school. You know how you go to college here? We had university, but not everyone goes. Like if You Want to go and be pyschologist or if You want to be a doctor, then you’d go on. But otherwise you don’-L. SO Ltm(r, I i@.-.e You do f ive years of- high school Is that the s;me here? But we either do the -first three and leave or we do the whole five. Both Mark and Steven did the -five, but like I only did three, and I don’t know. I thin@– back now and I think, Mum and Dad asked if I wanted to leave Cause I kept on and on “I wanna leave, I wanria leave”, and so in the end ti-iey said it was Up -to me. And so I did, I I e-Ft .

As a child, I wanted to be an airhostess, I don’t know why. I applied once and I didn’t get in. And like my brother said You have to apply twice to get in. But I never did it again because I got Stuck into stockbroking and I started to really like working. But like MUM used to work, LtfnM -the back Of Our house she had a room that was her office, so for the construction company. Her boss would come there. So she had a des[-, all set Lip with a typewriter and every-thing. SO that Lt-.sefJ to intrigue me, like paperwor@.– anc@.’. -typing =ki-iLl bonl:-@.-.eeping. So I think that must have Stuck with me, Cause thats why I went and did the typing course.


MUM Could understand why I wanted to do it Cause it’d been there. Never something like a doctor or something. I went to business school for a year. They teach You business principles, typing and stuff like that. SO, I did that for a year and then 1, that ended like in December arid February I got a job. So ‘L was 16 when I started work. -rhat’s quite Young compared to here, You don’t get Out: Of college till You are in Your twenties. But it worked Out. It Was I LtC@’,y for fie, it worked Out WF-11. As soon as I got out of Harvard, I got a job as a stockbroker. Umm it was Saul, @-ambridge, and Branley then, but Ltmfri like just doing all the awful running around and chasing after all the paper, it wasn’t much fun but, like I stayed there and they sorta merged with another company and the partners switched around and I stayed there for eight years. So, I moved up in between like Ltmm, I can’t remember how many years, I thint:- a-Fter-, -five or six years and I got bared with it, so I said I wanted to leave. Arid they said they were opening an office in Melbourne, and they needed someone to open the back office there. So, by that time I was running quite a few different Computers and bookwork so they sent me to Melbourne for si,,@ months. Go, that was good. So, I did that. I came back to the same firm +or a Couple years. I came back and thats when I met Kip. I run the backo++ice. SO, You are running Computers, rltni-iiricj c–l ients accounts and accounts, reconciliations. I love working with figures and working out problems. In the end like when I wor@.-:ed in Sydney I was hired to solve problems. Its like a (r.iystery, like if you get this mess that these people come and do and I had to sort it out. Its intriguing. Each day You 90 in a Small clue comes into it. I”d do that again anyday. If we go bac@:: to F’erth thats something I’d probably try and get back into part-time. I don’t know what stockbroking offices are like over here. I thin@.: its on -R lQt larger scale. So I don’t thii-ik it Would have the same meaning at all. I think Your trading floor is huge compared to OL(r,s. It seems weird that that is what Mum used to do. Secretarial wor,[::. Your talking to clients all the time and ..more so than where I’m Working right i-iow. Its like you just don’t use Your brain and YC)L@ just stand around. Its tiresome, YOL@ come home and just think what afi I doing. [works at J. Crew in Freeport] I thin[.: You really need something to keep Your brain working all the time. And VOLT are coming across new things all the tifyie, it works Out differently every time. Its never the same. That was always a challenge.

He [@:”ip] started working as a stockbroker. He’d been friendly, and v4e’d invite him out a couple girlfriends and 1, and one that worked with me as well, Cause he didn’t know ai-iyone in F’erth. Kip went down once be-fore to Sydney and worked on a sheep station for a Couple months and returned to the United States. And then a friend of his parents knew- M-AcKinnon who Was one of the partners at the firm. He is a good friend. So, ip said he wanted to work in Australia, and he offered him a job, so.. thats how he got his visa to come down and everything. So we thought we’d take him out to a few places. And like they’ve all got brothers so he could start to meet a few guys. So, we too@.-: him Out and @-“ip kept going do You .-4ant to go see this? Arid I’d say okay’.

We kept on going Out, SO..it Was good. Like he didn’t e)<pect it and I didn’t e,,pect it at all. So, I things-. I first met him when I was back from Melbourne for a wee@:: holiday. And -t@ien I had to go bac:@:: to Melbourne. As soon ,Rs I got bacl:: to Melbourne, I thought I thin’@:: I want to go back to F’erth. So, they sent me back, wtiic@i was nice of -Lhefn, Cause like they wanted me to stay longer but I Said r’lo. It worked Out Well. It worked out strangely, because I was dating someone else when Kip first came over. He came over and he stayed with an operator at Our work, one of the traders YOL( Call them. He was sharing a flat with him. And the operator guy, Andrew, was the guy I was dating. The guy he Was staying with, I was dating him’ Ai-id that sorta ended a bit5 he went to London for awhile. And so thats when I went to Melbourne. But, in his mind it was sorta still on. Cause it was just a si@@, month separation and then we’d come back again. And then when he came back, I was seeing @.-“ip so..that was a little bit hard. It was interesting. it wasn’t very nice. It was a bit difficult at first I think, because he hadn’t accepted that we weren’t sorta seeing each other. But, now we see him because @@ip is really good -friends with him,as well. I see him as well, and he’s good He is a really good friend. I haven’t seen him for awhile. He is living in London now, for a time. Its funny, like at Our wedding, people bring up that I used to date the person he used to live with, and make me seem really bad. But, it was good. The marriage took place in Perth. Yeah, like I met him like 1986, 1 think. In the end he had to move out of where he was living with Andrew because there was another guy living there as well and they only had two people living in the flat. So he was I iteral I y going to get @:: i.c@-..ed out . And at the time I was living and sharing a place with another guy, Mitch, who was a very close friend, just sharing a flat together. And umm, we had another bedroom, and I thought, Mitchell and I sorta thought should we offer it to him. Because I didn’t know if Mitchell Would want my boyfriend in t@ie same house. That could get sorta get a bit sticky. So he thought it’d be alright, so we offered it, and he said yeah. But, I hadi-i’t told My MLIM and Dad. Because I i@.-:e Your MLtm and Dad say if You I ive with them they will never marry You. Its always been the opinion. And so, Tdidn’t even tell them that tie moved in. I thought oh well they will never know cause there’s three bedrooms anyway.

And then LTMM a few weeks later after Kip-. had moved in, and MLtm had come over to visit and things but everything was fine. And she knew I was dating @:.’.ip and it was okay. And then one day I went up to MLtm and she said “Elon’t you have something to tell mL-?” I said “What?” ClaLtghl “Isn’t @.-.’:ip living with vou?” And I just t@IOLtght God how do You

She just said “I’m a mother; I’m not blind”. And then she was okay about it. Cause I thought they’d hit the roof.

But they were good. So, like he moved in and then we ended up moving away. Mitchell had to move; he moved someplace else. So, we ended Lip sharing a place just the two c)-f us. And that was ,D@.-.-ay, then I switched jobs so like we weren’t living together and working together, cause that’s pretty hard. But, like at work we were totally separate anyway. But I ttIOLIght for the best, so I moved. I went to work for Esprit clothing.

.Just after I met F:.’.ip, I decided I wanted to travel, I didi-i’t have a chance to go to London or the States or anything. And umm, in the end he decided that was a good idea; he hadn’t traveled around the States either. I think May 1987, we decided, we both quit work and this is still before I went to Esprit, so I was still back at ‘-he brokers. Umm, we both quit work and came over here. This is like the first time I get to meet his parents and Rll. It was okay; it was pretty exciting. His Dad had a Terrago van sorta thing, so we drove that around the States for, two months, and did a huge loop and went camping and so we sorta got to know each other that way, Cause you are sorta StLkC@.-. in the middle of nowhere with each other.

It was lot calmer than I thought it Would be. See the only news you sorta get in Perth about the States is all rnLig(ging– Rnd @:: 4L I 1 in gs and St Lt’ff .Cause its the same here you don’t hear anything about Australia. Like there w@is an election a little while ago, and th 4,:B is like the major Liberal/Labor government of Australia and over here I think it was mentioned onc:e. And then like we didn’t even hear the results. The impression of people . . . . peopl e wer,e real I y -friendly. But umm sorta like working over here, YOLI sorta find that like Americans tend to try to analyze everything You are saying and doing. More so than what Australians do. Australians don’t care why you’re doing it, you are just doing it. You know some do. But I i@.-:e I thin@:- yolt’l I find that Americans ask more questions like why are You doing it and where is it gonna get YCL(. I seem to find that alot. What are you aiaiing for? And its good to have goals to aim for. Umm, but like I’m forever asked that. Everyone keeps saying what do You wanna do, after, this and whatever. I’m like I don’t know. I’ll see what comes along.

But that’s sorta like at home everyone seems to travel. Cause I remember, David, he moved out of home when he was 19 and moved Lip to Newman in Western Australia which is like an IS hour car drive. Like its ages away. And he has lived up there since; he is still up there now and fie is 31. Sol we’d only see him on holidays or if he had weekends off sometimes. He works -For the airline company Lip there. So we had sorta gotten a little bit further away from each other. And so there was just my other brother and me, so tt)ats pr-obab I y @,4hv we are a I i tt I e b i t c I oser.

No, I didn’t want to get married -it all. I kept thinking once You get married then sorta I don’t one part of your life done. The longer You Can keep it open the better. But then when Kip asked me I didn’l- even think twice. We’d never discussed marriage. Maybe once…”what have you thought RbaLtt it’?” “Maybe..” But never before him asking me really. It was when we were living in ‘aidney together. So we were both for two different brokers over ther,e. I was a stockbroker in

.’-)ldi–@ey, where -they were paying me $40,(.)00 @p year. That was -a Iiigh position and getting to that stage where they pay :V.4C)I(-)(0 a year, thats a good wage. I haven’t Studied or anything, but I’d worked a lot to get where I was. They wanted to pay me more, but I took it CJOWN Cause I wasn’t sure I Could do the job. And I found Out that I could. And its helps to know that I car. do something like ‘.-hat.

Anyway, and it was my birthday, November 24, 1997, and so we vier-e I i@-.-.e I ayii-ig in bed and I wake Lip for my birthday.I thought oh yeah he’s probably going to give me a present or something. And then ]-,,e’s got this little bo,,,,, and thought oh he’s giving me jewelry. And I open it up and there’s this huge diamond’ And I thought oh what’s this? And that’s when he said will you marry me. I thought God I e–an’t even have my coffee first’@’I He’s going ltno, no, no You can’t Cause you might wake up and say no Bec,-RLtse i t was in Sydney, t@-iat’s like two hours different from Perth. MLtm and Dad rang up to say happy birthday. So as soon as answered the phone, it was just after Kip had asked me and MLims saying happy birthday and I’m going is Elad there? And Elads ci-) the phone saying happy birthday, arid-. I sav hold on a sec Dad Kip wants to ask You Something. It is important to get Your fathers approval. Whether someone admits i4 or not it Counts deep down if YOL@R parents approve. And especially I i@::eg I know if I was a Dad and I had a daughter I’d I ove +or them to sorta get my consent. It was seven in the morning in Sydney so that made it five o’cloc@.–. in Perth, or even +Our Cause it was like daylight savings. So t’ip’s on the phone to Dad saying can I marry VOLtr daughter or something. And Dad goes are you sure about this’@’ So @-‘ips go-@@ng Your Dad is As@.-.ing me if I’M Sure! I’m going [,ad shut L@p’ I think that was good.

Getting married [happiest moment]. It goes so fast.

Its great, but it goes too qLtiCi::. And to See my Dad so e,,cited, the two D-F LIS driving to the C@IL,,rch. And with Kip there. We —4ion’t have rehearsal dinner. 2-@Ltt otherwise it seems to be the same as here. We have a pilr– of speeches on the wedding night, which is all the families giving toasts to each Lnther-.. someone toasts my Dad and my I:lacl will give a toast to someone else and someone toasts the groom’s parents, and it goes around. So, its sorta good to hear, we have it all cri video. Like someone will talk about Kip and 1, and its good to hear someone elses point of View 0+ You. His -family came out, yeah like 14 people came Out -from America. It was good. We didn’t think they’d come at all. We had a week off be-Fare so the -families could sorta get to each other. Which was good. It was nice to have them come out. They didn’t sc)rta think twice about it. They came Cut .

It didn’t sink in, the American part, for awhile. That was one of the first questions both parents asked. Are you going to live in ALtS’–ralia’@’ Are YCILA going to live in America? I don’t Like I said to MLtm we are gonna Stay here for a few years as soon as we got married. We were there +or, +Our years altogether, 2 after we got married i i-i ALtst ra I i a I .Kip has always wanted to do his MBA, and ,i@-.,-e Ltn’ess he gets that done we are sarta half and half all the time. So, I’d say to ML((YL yal-k know that we are (.gonna have to go over there for at least two years for the Course and at least some for working. And so she sorta understands that but she Wouldn’t understand if I said I was going here -Forever. Umm especially being an only daughter, I think it makes it hard. I don’t mind it now [being in America]. But now that I’m pregnant I’d prefer to be in Perth. Like around my mother-, -for one and also sorta around girlfriends who are having babies ot- whatever,. Kip’ got these roommates over here, but they are all males and like they don’t have steady girlfriends or anything. And it seems like we’ve both found its hard to meet new friends. U(riM You can’t sorta make close girlfriends straight off. Like the ones i-n Perth You’ve been sorta building a relationship and friendship with them for years. So thats the hard thing right now. I think @.-‘:ip’s aspects are to do his MBA and to work here for awhile. Because I think the MBA will do him more good here than in Australia. But, I till want to go back. He agrees, its a better place to bring up children [Australia]. UMM You’re not so worried about the crime. You’re not so worried about someone taking Your, baby or …. that seems to be, like missing children is quite big over here. Its pretty scary. And Your like in a smaller group . And like having my close friends around, I think the child Would realize it. Plus, I feel like I’m depriving my parents. I’m the first one to have a grandchild. And like over here. Which I don’t think is right. But we are depriving his parents if we go back there SO. . YOLt real 1 y can’t work it Out . Sofneones gonna. be hurt either way. So, we both have to give and take -R bit. But right now we are at the stage where I’m lil.–:e “I want to go back ! ” And he is “I don’t When we first got here, we both wanted to go back. I think head gotten more attached to Australia than what he’d realized. It was hard for him meeting people at first, and just as we left in December, right up until then he’d finally been accepted. Its hard to be accepted by Perth people, because everyone is in their own little close friendships and Community or whatever. He was off doing things with all the guys and Stuff, so he was pretty happy about that. They always give Americans a hard time anyway, Australians down there. He is going to Duke for two years, so hopefully we will meet people there. We are moving in a few weeks. We sometimes think we should live in London, and then everyone Would be happy. qLtt, TIM settling for here a-‘- the moment. My Mum keeps asking me “you are not staying there forever are You?” Uncle Carl came over here, and I think he just died of Alziemers Disease. He married an American lady and he came here when he was Younger and lived here all his life. So its not like Americans are Out Of the family or whatever. Mum’s got two’brothers and one, Jeff, has three sons. And one came over to go to Pittsburgh to do his MDA, and he met a girl, and now he is marrying her. So he is coming over- here. She is from Lancaster, Pennsylvania. So there is another American in the family. They have the same Situation as us. My Auntie Daryl is discovering what Mum is feeling. Cause he wants to live over here. Its just so far, away. And I think its different when YC”i-r Only daughter is having children, then like if Your son’s wives are having children or something. My brothers haven’t had any yet. They have to get cracking! One i.s married, and the other one is getting married in the moment. She thinks about it a lot. That counts a lot I think. When my grandmother died last year, MLtm gave us all a thousand dollars each -for Christmas. It Was quite a shock to us; I’ve never gotten money be-For,e. I don’t know what to do with it, I’ve got it in my savings. I tjon’t know what to buy; I -Feel I i@.:e I shOLtl d buy something with it. I think YC)LT think time is going to go a lol- slower

When You become an adult] and You’ll get lots c) -f time to do the things -You want to do. The big thing is 4-c like buy a house. Everyone owns a house when YOL( get married in Australia, in Perth. The big deal is to own a house and some land. Like and I’m still tr,ying to get that now. We 1–iavei-i’t bought anything. Umm and what my parents have done they I ive in a house in YLtr-@kl::yme, they bought the house rie,.,t door to them, and they’ve got the house down in MandLtrah. Like if anything ever goes wrong there is a house for each child. 1’ri not Sure if it was intentional, but thats how its worked Out. My eldest brother, he owns a house up north with his wife. And my other brother he owns a house, in Perth, and he’s not married yet, and another block of land down in MandLtrah. I’ve really been taught to save money. When I first started work I’d spend my money on anything if I Could. But when I came home from work I had to give out of my paycheck, usually Dad Would collect a certain amount of money a week. Even if it was 5C) dollar-s a week it went into my savings account, and I Couldn’t touch that.


This was when I Was living at home and I lived at home for quite a while. Yeah, its good now I don’t touch that, its saving +or a house. Or its for something else You really want. Like at the time when I Was Younger You Want to tr,avel, it just Stands Out. To go and see all these different places, which I was lucky I could do that. Australians, as soon as you grow up want to go on an overseas trip. BLt’u usually you go home and stay, you don’t go somewhere else @knd live. You return, thats the whole point of but not everyone does. Thats the interesting part .

On the side I’d like to do something part-time. like I like things to do with interior design. I Want to start picking up on that cause I’ve got nothing to do. Even i @.-: e designing Your own house, but You’ve gotta have Your house to do that. But I don’t think I ever had something I wanted to be like some big business woman or Studying this and become something. I always wanted children. But never, to the point of Wanting to get married so badly in order to have children. I’ve just thought its gonna come around, when it doesn’t bother me, until then I’ll do what I want. Marriage and children go together. I Wouldn’t think of !-i,ivir-ig a child and not being fna'”ried. Depending, ‘L haven’t been in that situation so..l don’t have to face that but … I door .”t think thats, wel’ it’s not right. Like my brother -@anted to do it and MLtm -e “no”. Like he didn’t want to s I i do it but he didn’t believe in marriage. And see for some reason now he is getting married. So, obviously MLTM and Dad have rubbed off on him. Which is good, because when you have kids at school and they are called bastards. They are Cause they just are. And Perth is a small place, You know what everyone is doing, if someone is seeing someone Rnd Stuff like that. People now Rre trying to make it accepted by doing it, but they are still looked down upon really, when You think about it. You still have some other child’s mother or something saying “they had that child When they weren’t married’. Then their child hears that and they go to school and thats around in Perth. The only divorced people that I know RrL- MLim and Elads age and younger than MLtfp. and Elads age which is late forties. But never li@::e someone thats just got married like my age and thats be’en married for like three years. Never hear of that. Its seems as if its its ones that waited until the children got to a certain age and then they left. Not extreme RIMOLtntS. It’s a scandal in Perth really if VOLT get divorced. I don’t know how I would deal with it if I had two separate parents.

That Would be very hard. I think I’d be i different person. It just hasn’t been done amongst any of my friends. Living together,, I don’t know if its good, but it certainly helped.

got to [::now Kip :k lot better. And al though MLTM and Dad didn’t approve at -first then they understood that I wasn’t just i-nLtc@:-.ing around, and being quite slap happy about it. It was something that I had thought about. think it worked oLt Well.

Having to behave myself [stress of being an adult].

Stresses probably the most is like money. Having enough money, providing enough money for your family. So that they can do things that they want to do. Because I don’t remember asking to do something and being told sorry you can?t we don’t have enough money. I don’t want to have to have that. Thats like a stress. Its hard. Like when Kip is at school these next two years I sorta -feel like I should to help Out. But I sorta feel that being home with my child is more important. It is tradition in Australia for men to work and women to raise childr,en at home. So when they are at school then maybe I can work. I’m not a very stressful person. Kip gets tied up. I think because they think too Much about things. If he just Sat down and released for awhile it Would wort:: Out. It always seems to. Thats been sorta our attitude in our family. Its never really as bad as what you thint::. ‘Ihere is no point in gett.-‘Liig too worked up Cause its not gonna solve anything. Like I’m not competing Rgainst anyone. I sometimes thin’@:: Kip competes against his brother and sister-. But T’m not fussed about that. I’ve never been competitive like that. But we ar-e competitive in other things. Like if you go to wort:: You Want to be the best at whrt You are doing. Once

YOL( place someone else in the Picture I think you lose sight of sor,ta where you are going [should only compete against SL-If”. But, You know Yourself if you are not Working hrrd enough. Competing against everyone else is too stressful.

My Dad told me to get on a plane and come home so it can be an Australian [new baby]. Now that I’ve come over here I think I’m more inclined to PLtS@’i education more rwith her children3. I think: I was a bit young to decide what I wanted to do. Wouldn’t want them to make a wrong dec-Lsi(Dn and drop Out Of school. I’d sorta make them stay in school. I know we both want to stress both Countries completely. And like we want to somehow combine Kips work: with both Countries if we can do that. Because like if they grow up here – 1 thir,@.–. early childhood has a lot to do with it – and they are here for all their childhood You can’t iLtSt them off to Australia after that. YOU can but I @d 1 tc- somehow split it in between, so they can get a view of both place–,. No yelling [in her house]. I see some things over here that I dof-i’t agree with like [,ids r,anting and ravinq_. There’s a certain amount you can let them go to. I remember Mum saying that we went to town one day, and she took a'[! three of Us. It Was just her and Dad was at work: or something. And one of my brothers Couldn’t have it, so he started brnging his head on the ground. It was like the most absurd thing to do. She said she has neve@- been so embarrassed. Cause it looks horrible to hit a child in front of anyone, like to tell them off when you are Out. ’00 MUM Would sometimes pinch you. And like it didn’t hurt, but it was enough to Stop You from doing it. And she did it to Mar@.-: once in the the middle of town and he turned around in the middle of the shopping center and said “Elon’t You pinch me!” Everyone turned around and looked –it INILt@l as if she was a big mean lady. So, we’ve all got better as we’ve gotten older 50 Mum and Dad Must have done something right.

I think Kip 4S gonna have different values, he wants to put in. Yeah, like career goals. I’ve never really thought about them. ThR-t should probably be an opt:ion that should be put into their heads, all these different careers that y 0 Lt r- a. 1-1 -L ie .-B -t i I I c a n ‘ t d e c i d e .I mean how do You decide on just one thing? For some people it just stands Out, but it just hasi-i’t stood Out. I can’t think: of anything.

My girlfriends sister died of cancer when she was 23, and like we were a COLIP,E Of years Younger than her-. That sorta really hit home. Cause she was always sick and we could see that she was getting sicker. T didn’t understand it .Rnd I Couldn’t understand her, my girlfriend how she was feeling or anything. She died on my girlfriends twenty-first bir,thday. So it was the funeral and seeing my girlfriend and her not knowing what to say and my not knowing to say to her. That was hard. I don’t think: You Can sorta brace anyone for that. It sorta ilist happens to YOL@. and you have to iLkSt t@iin@.: about it. L-ast year when my grandmother d 4ed I sorta think I should’ve seen her more or done something else. I wish that I had asked her qLt2StiOnS about that letter. But that was a shock because she was going in for an operation, and she @-4asn’t expecting to die. I thin@.-.- about her death more often. Mavbe Cause its SO C105e to Mum. And there were so many things she

never said. We kept on asking her to tape things or vir4Lte them down and she never do it and like even now I wonder why she wouldn’t do things that.

To get marr,ied and to I eave Austral ia [crucial decisions in adulthood]. They really stand out. I think sometimes LAbOLit school, I would have preferred to go to fifth year, and have done e-,..,,-Actly what I’ve done. SO just another, two years of school. Sometimes I think of the advantages, I i@-.’e purely conversational and just to [,now more. Like when You are talking with people and sometimes You don’t LtnderstAnd something, You just won’t about it and shy away from it. But it really doesn’t really matter if I don’t know I should just ask. But some people don’t thi,t-)t:: that way. If you don’t know them they think you are ignorant or something. Like it seems sometimes that @–ip se of Knows -A ‘lot more than I do. ‘@-o thats obviously because school. So, I think I’d like to do something more. But not now t@—.oLigh .T@iere’s still a lot of time to do it.

Sometimes I have an inner strength. Its there when I need it. It saimething thats built up over time. Switching from job to job, sometimes I’ve gotten z@ bit shyer. I can feel it in myself. But then I’ll just change and I’ll burst Out. When I need that strength I seem to get it from somewhere. I rjcjr-i’t know where though, but it just comes. when you are ‘leaving home, ‘leaving at the airport, and yf-jlt –Ar,e crying and You need something to get you over. it just Comes; it just happens.

I think so, not all the time no [aL)C)Ltt being in control of 1-ier life]. Its hard sometimes cause when You are not mar,ried you can gc, as You please, go where You please. But like I@Ve got @:.’ip, SO I Cal-l’t just make a decision like I want to go to Greece for the week, which I did when I came over in 9’1. L just tOO@’.. off and went to London and then 3reece. SomL-t i i-nes -,iS. that urge to ,just do things on the Spur Of the moment Like cause @’,.’ip is dictating our ne,@t few years of life cause of his Studying. I ‘rn sort-a ta@..- itig a back seat to that. Not really its an advantage -for me. Because he is gonna come Out with a better job and then I sorta +eel as if I’m free to sorta go on a road, where its -not gonna matter, I don’t have to earn a certain amount Of money. I’m gonna. have a choice, which is Something I look forward. f-i@.-:e I’ve sorta got those years – ‘1-c Study or, do what I want with them. I don’t have to work. Its a good feel ing, but Not I have to decide what I want to do. And I don’t know how to do that. Whether its be:ing a mother or something additional to that.

What I wish its going to be like or what it will be like? [-,-he future I?m not Sure if they are the same. Tive got great aspirations for @,”ip doing well. I don’t know wher,e we are gonna be, thats the thing. LJrnm hc)pef Lil 1 y Ii [-.: e we are gonna have a clo–e@.-:nit family. I I want that and he -does Rs well. He’s gotta make time and we’ve gotta be t’ier-e at certain times. My parents seeri to have always beer, around and they did well. But nowadays it does seem 1 YOL( ‘IaVe to spend more hours [at I to get further. Hopefully, we will own a house. Owning a house is a big deal, its something to leave your- children, something they can -f.-(l I back on And its Your own. Its an achievement. Once I get there I don’t know what happens ne,,.,,t. Its a goal , b- Ltt once I get ther%e I II I probab I y set another one . Its hard -For me tfD understand Cwhy we don’t have a house yet3 especially because when there’s friends and my brothers around and they own @IOLtSeS. But as long as I that it’s an the horizon. But, if @”.’ip turned around and said we are not gonna own a house in our I ife, that V40LI1 d 1 i@::e shatter my goal. Each tiiile I have the pleasure of speaking with an Australian, I -im drawn by the Australian atttltde toward life. In Leanne’s own words “I don’t know what I want or what I’m going to do; I’ll see what comes along.” It It’s never really as bad as you thir,[::”, and “I’m not competing against anvone.” “Competing against ever,yone else is too z,tress-fLtl”. This low ztress, relaxed approach to life is very appealing to me. I find Australians “no worry” attitude toward ‘life very refreshing.

I felt a real connection with Leanne as she spoke abOLt-@ her childhood, and the fact that she was always Outside. I telit ‘,’flat. we both shared a love of natltr-e -Rnd being Out in the fresh air. I also closely identified with Leanne’s about– marriage. It was almost uncanny when she said that she wasn’t eager to get married because it meant that one part of VOLkr life was done. She spoke of enjoying the independence of single ‘life for as long as possible. 1, too, see marriage as a major life transition, and part of me clings very tightly to the independence and freedom of being unmarried.

My overall response to Leanne’s life history was very positive. Her I ife seemed fltl I of i ove, +Ltn , and happiness, with optimism and opportunity ..i@-iL-ad in the future. The decision +acing Leanne and her husband regarding where they will raise their family is a difficult one. Even though the decision is technically two years or so away, it seemed obvious to Me in the telling of her story, that it is a major isslte in her ‘I ifL- even now. I often tend to romanticize marriage between people of different countries, thin@:@ing only about how wonderful it must be to travel and learn another Culture in depth. Leanne’s story gave insight not only into the advantages of mrrriage between peoples of different continents, but -Rlso the disadvantages and -@-.@le difficult choices that May result.

I identified two key issues in Leanne’s life. One is the importance of family throughout her development. The large amount Of time that her family spent together through her- L-tiiidi-icod has significantly af-fected her I ife. This can some women are trying to change the traditional Values of having children crilv in wedloc@.-., by choosing to become single parents, did not gain any SLippOr-‘@”- -From Leanne. She was Clear- in that this was not something that is acceptable, Mar–riLRge and children go together according to Leanne, and it is, important for ci woman to stay home with the children while her hLisbRnd wor@;:s. Whe-i the children are school age then it is o@-.:ay -For. the mother-, to enter the wor@-..force.

Parents need to be available to their children. Thus, in spite of the fact that some women are challenging the Australian Cultural values toward women’s roles, Leanne has accepted the traditional VIlLtes passed on to her from her parents. She has found personal meaning and importance in these values, and will likely pass these values on to her own children.



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